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CNN
Sep 26, 2012 1:00pm PDT
, ohio, is so important both to president obama and mitt romney campaigning there this afternoon. and there's more of a backdrop than just the early autumn trees. a brand new quinnipiac/cbs "new york times" poll has the president a full ten points ahead of romney in ohio. 53% to 43%. let's begin with cnn white house correspondent dan lothian. >> reporter: joe, even though a new poll shows the president with a double digit lead in ohio, mr. obama continues to push hard in the state. it's a huge priority for the campaign according to a top aide. by our count the president has visited ohio at least 13 times so far this year. this time ahead of early voting, which by the w begins next tuesday. now, today the president was again selling his policies and his record in a state he says has benefitted from the auto bailout. he talked about the thousands of jobs created but also hit china and went after his gop opponent. >> he's been talking tough on china. he says he's going to take the fight to them. he's going to go after these cheaters. and i've got to admit, that message is better tha
MSNBC
Sep 27, 2012 3:00am EDT
-language romney ads in nine states. it's another attempt to soften romney's image. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. he'sticking ufor idob that's kind of cool, isn't it? romney hopes this video will have an impact. but there's another video affecting romney's campaign in a very much bigger way. >> and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal respbity and care r r s. >>t is brutal. the hidden fund-raiser video where romney disparaged 47% of americans is not helping with swing voters. it's also hurting romney with his base. "the new york times" talked to a worker, kenneth myers, an unemployed republican from ohio. romney's cments didn't sit llh s. "the last thing, where he was going on about the 47% who are dependent on the government is hard to swallow. i think i'm part of the 47% he's lking about. but i don't want to be dependent on the government." that's a pretty good indation of where that commenhas taken this campaign. e a ais if ry'm
MSNBC
Sep 26, 2012 8:00pm EDT
. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. theifference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> mitt roey istill trying le u47% problem and america isn't buying it. tonight, e.j. dionne on today's disastrous new poll numbers for republicans. an ohio democratic party chair, chris redford, on mt romney's cke.ure to dot the " in the >> it's not consistent with our polling, steve. >> the romney campaign has officially joined the poll truthers. tonight, we will debunk the republican alternate reality. >>here is a fundamental error going on in tol t yey m organizations. >> and there's more fallout from senator scott brown's race-baiting campaign. we'll have the latest from boston. >>> and the star of tv's "dirty mwe, as you know, well,job t. he's a guy who has made a name for himself by doing things other people don't want to do. really ugly, dirty jobs. like standing with a politician. >> i'll explain why mike rowe was standing on therong stage wi therongantey. oo thave you with us tonight, folks. thanks for
FOX News
Sep 27, 2012 12:00pm PDT
obama urged both sides to get it together. after two days at the table and all the pressure from the outside, the league and the res said though reached a deal to last eight years. pensions? you bet. now the details from rick leventhal. this worked out pretty good. >>guest: it did. the commissioner says this deal would have gotten done this week anyway with or without the call that changed the outcome of monday night football but admits it was a factor to get the two sides to the table and push them to agree. the two sides met for 17 hours on tuesday and 15 hours on wednesday agreeing on the eight-year contract, the longest ever for referees with pentagons and retirement benefits spelled out and a new salary structure from last year's average of $149,000 to $173,000 next year and $205,000 a year in 2019. the commission are says this is a deal that had to get done but it doesn't mean there won't be more bad calls ahead. >> sports are not perfect. life is not perfect. that is why we love sports. you always want did try to avoid the controversial plays particularly at the end of a g
FOX
Sep 27, 2012 5:00am EDT
... president obama and mmtt romney both went to ohio yesterday... hoping to gain some ground in a critical swing state. state. --reporter pkg-as follows -- ohho has about 11 and a hhlf million people, 11 electoral votes, and --two candidates hoping to win over the buckeye state."we will win ohio, let's take back america!""unless you live under a rock, or your cable went out, you know &pthere's annelection going on in ttrned loccl---with five stops - betweennthe candidates. mitt romney was near columbus, green, and kent--focusing on mi opponent said let detroit go bankrupt (boos) don't boo, vote, he was betting against an indussry ttat supports one out of eeght ohio jobs." "the difference betwwen me and president obama is iiknow what it takessto get the conomy the economy mattees to them. romney argues his business experience makee hii the best choice--but latest polls suggest voters think mr. obama would do a etter job. a cnn averrge of four recent found 51 percent of likkly - voters support president obama romney. "my friend mike rowe." one of romney's events wednesday was at a bu
CNN
Sep 27, 2012 9:00am EDT
both president obama and mitt romney are campaigning in virginia, holding rallies at the same time. obama in virginia beach, romney in springfield. both campaigns talking jobs. >> you're going to look at what i've done and you can look at what he's done and you'll have a sense of who's going to be fighting for american workers. and you're going to look at his plan and you can look at my plan. because he wants to keep open these tax loopholes that encourage jobs overseas. i want to make sure that we're providing tax breaks for companies right here in america. i want to help big factories and small businesses double their exports. i want more goods stamped with made in america. i want to create 1 million new manufacturing jobs in the next four years. >> we know the result of the last four years. so we don't have to wonder what would happen if he were reelected. we see it. we see the high unemployment. we see the 23 million people out of work. we see kids coming out of school that can't find jobs. we see manufacturing. manufacturing jobs in the last four years have dropped by 582,000
ABC
Sep 27, 2012 5:30pm PDT
. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class families. the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> reporter: and the president, that table behind him, with what he'd say if invited to yours. >> when i took office, we were losing nearly 800,000 jobs a month, and were mired in iraq. today, i believe that as a nation, we are moving forward again. >> reporter: and with that renewed push for romney to try to convince voters of his empathy, an image from the campaign of a young romney, a missionary overseas, missing his girlfriend. his heart then as romney works to show heart now. >> my heart aches for the people i've seen. i was, yesterday, with a woman who was emotional and she said, "look, i've been out of work since may." she was in her 50s. she said, i don't see any prospects. >> reporter: of course, the big debate less than a week away now. the president heads to nevada this weekend where senator kerry will play governor romney. and governor romney, we know, has already held mock debates. he will practice more this weekend. george, i asked the g
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 8:00am PDT
. >> both obama and romney agree that health care needs to be more affordable. they just disagree about how to do that. >> dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] on of his bigst supporters. [ female an with cisco at the center... working together has ner worked so well. the ones who make us laugh, onesng shlder to lean on, the ones we're named after, and the oned after us. it takes all kinds of good to make a family. at n york life, everything we do is to help you keep good going we know yo krisenow yoearly... and work late,with not enough sn between. how you sometimes need to get over to that exit, like, rit w. and how things aren't... st younymore. ucinthe all-new,ren't... smaring. >>> i know they're out there chanting at his events four more years. let me ask you this. d
NBC
Sep 27, 2012 4:00am PDT
details coming up in just a few minutes in sports. >>> but first, president obama and republican presidential candidate mitt romney both campaign in the battleground state of virginia today after nearly crossing paths in another key swing state, ohio. nbc's tracie potts is joining from us washington with those details. good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. virginia, four years ago, the president won that state after 44 years of voters there selecting republicans, but then ey flipped and switched their democratic governor for a republican, so, some back and forth in virginia, and now the president hopes to win that state back. president obama and mitt romney campaign in virginia today, where median income is 23% higher than the national average, and unemployment's way lower, under 6%. like ohio wednesday, the president's expected to hammer romney for his comments on the 47% of voters who don't pay taxes. >> i don't know how many of you will be with me this time around, but -- but it doesn't matter, because i'm running to be your president, to represent everybody. >> we're
FOX News
Sep 24, 2012 6:00pm PDT
comedian in the presidential race. and i'd like to take this opportunity to ask both romney and obama to debate me because i think that both of those guys -- i think that the american people are being given a false choice, because the choice between the lesser of two evils is a false choice. it's not an actual choice. i think that peace and freedom and solutions, economic solutions, that -- that involve investment in our own country first are the things that i offer and that i want to talk about. so i think, yes, i'm very, very serious. and, you know, i would like people to incorporate these ideas in this election cycle, such as -- >> sean: you're running as a socialist? >> well, i'm running on the peace and freedom party, and part of -- i do think we do need more socialism in this country this time. we need to move stuff from the top to the middle and the bottom, because it keeps on staying at the top. how you build a middle class is bring stuff from the top down to the middle. and people deserve something back for the tax they pay. >> sean: all right. so, for example, we now have a
NBC
Sep 28, 2012 5:30pm PDT
. >> reporter: while both candidates are practicing in private, president obama held a closed-door session this afternoon. and publicly their campaigns are showering the opponents with praise. a message from one expert outlines romney's skills as a prepared, aggressive, debater. the romney campaign is touting president obama's natural gifts and the extensive seasoning under the bright lights of the bright stage. today, in a mock debate, senator john kerry dismissed the idea that the republican nominee is an inexperienced debater, pointing to more than 20 debates. >> oh please, just give me 20 breaks, not just one. >> reporter: but analysts saying given the state of the race, the burden may be on the challenger. >> he has to do something to get people to take a deep breath, and say wait a minute, well, i thought i made a decision about supporting the president but maybe i better look a second time at mitt romney, that is what he needs to do. >> reporter: and one other thing on today's flight this evening, mitt romney said that people tend to during the debates, focus on the small things, li
FOX News
Oct 2, 2012 4:00pm PDT
. it's not just a battle of facts. both mr. obama and romney will come well prepared for that. it's how they conduct themselves, how they come across to viewers and a lot of that's very, very personal. frankly, you can't really rehearse it. that's what makes the anticipation so high. the expectation game so important, it's the unscripted moment that people are watching for. bill? >> bill: 50 million plus americans watching four years ago. huge audience. >>> 25-year-old who graduated from college earned a law degree and passed the florida bar exam. now fighting to get his law license. the problem was and is, he's an illegal immigrant. he came to the u.s. with his parents at the age of nine on a visitor's visa and when that expired, they never left. now he's hoping to convince the florida supreme court to let him practice law, even though he's undocumented. at a hearing today, the justices appeared skeptical, questioning whether they have the authority to do so since it's against federal law. they also talked about delaying a decision to see if the man gets a work permit under president o
CBS
Sep 26, 2012 4:00am PDT
said president obama has gained significant ground over mitt romney in ohio, pennsylvania and florida. we have more on this. >> reporter: good morning. that's right. both are scrambling for support in those potentially make-or-break states. today honing in on ohio. by bus or by plane for mitt romney and paul ryan this election could come down to one state. >> o.h. o.h.! works every time. >> reporter: ohio is one of the key swing states in this election and today romney and president obama will be battling for attention there, but the latest cbs news poll swing states shows romney with some ground to make up. the poll just out this morning has president obama up 10 points in the buckeye state, he had a six point lead before the convention. >> ohio we tried what they are selling. it didn't work, we don't like it, we're not going back. >> reporter: the numbers are similar in florida where the president has a nine point lead over romney and in pennsylvania he's maintained a double digit advantage for a couple of months now. but it's ohio that's been the main focus of the campaign. with pr
NBC
Sep 26, 2012 4:00am EDT
. both campaigns spent more here than any other state. president obama and his allies have spent nearly $48 million on ads in the state since may 1st. romney is not far behind. he and the super p.a.c.s supporting him have pumped in nearly 43 million. >> how can people say they want four more years of president obama. we can't afford four more years of president obama. >> reporter: romney has been trying to make the case he'll do a better job with the economy but in all three states the polls shows president obama leading on that issue. >> the path i offer is harder but to a better place. i'm asking you to choose that future. >> reporter: romney does lead in one category, voters in those same states say he would do a better job on the deficit. and both candidates will be appearing in the cleveland and toledo area today and romney will also be making a stop near columbus. >> it's on. thanks. two powerful bombs exploded in the syrian capital of damascus this morning. the explosion he did to at any timed minutes apart followed by gunfire. the attack was blamed on terrorists. damascus has be
FOX News
Sep 26, 2012 12:00am PDT
. it even united democrats and republicans with president obama tweeting "nfl fans on both sides of the aisle hope the refs lockout is settled soon." why to take a stand, bho. and paul ryan, vp nominee chimed in -- give him a break. it is probably time to get the real refs. >> i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. you know what, it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >> he did that before the infomercial he filmed on the solo flex. pretty impressive. the lingerie football league issued a statement saying it fired some of the guys the nfl is using as replacement refs because of their incompetence. let's go to "red eye" football analyst, cat on bench. cob. >> job market does not just hurt young adults. it hurts kittens, cat, whatever you are. jesse, are you a part-time ref for the got roller derby -- the goth roller derby league, easy for me to say. muscle relaxants do not work well with my mouth these days. are we too hard on these guys ? >> on whom, the refs? >> yes. >> i don't care. they are not 12.
MSNBC
Oct 1, 2012 3:00pm PDT
the obama white house. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> richard, it's got to be bad if fox news isn't buying your line. >> you know, chris wallace was asking really reasonable questions. it's flot just about specifics. it's to try and explain the real costs, the facts behind the tax policy. so even if you set aside the proposition about whether you are winning or losing, because all of these things can be temporary at the beginning of the campaign, but getting to the details in a factual way is important. if you cannot boil down your message as candidate, never mind about a bumper sticker but a sound bite, how you express it to voters that's exactly the problem that they are in. the details are difficult but difficult not to explain but difficult for middle class voters. >> i had the same difficulty in junior high school trying to make 5 plus 3 equal 9. the math isn't there. that's part of the problem. but megan, paul ryan talked to a wisconsin radio host and said why don't you get into the specifics on fox news sunday. let me play what he said. >> i
MSNBC
Sep 27, 2012 2:00am PDT
can we get ed hockly and the boys back on the field? there is a game tonight. >>> president obama and mitt romney running parallel campaigns. both in virginia today after following each other around ohio yesterday. the question is, with six days until the first debate, what is the romney game plan to turn this thing around? >>> and senator scott brown of massachusetts issues an apology after some of his staffers are caught on video doing the tomahawk chop to mark dubious claims by he lez beth warren that she is part native-american. do the voters care about any of this? it's "way too early" for this. good morning. i'm willie geist. this is "way too early" the show after further review is still way too damn early. i'm glad you're up watching us or listening live. you can e-mail me as always. you can tweet me to the answer the question why are you awake. or you can text the word awake followed by your response. we'll read the best responses next. the next 30 minutes will be the cram session for this thursday, september 27th. a lot to tell you about
CSPAN
Sep 27, 2012 6:00am EDT
earlier on, some people have said that barack obama is someone who both represented that kind of gary hart vote as well as the jesse jackson vote, uniting these two things. it became very, very formidable. now, the question of will you ever have a republican primary candidate who can unite those two sensibilities, and arguably george w. bush did that. now, the problem romney faces is that initially he had a tax plan that was let's just keep the bush rates in place, totally kind of marginal change. then he felt rick santorum might defeat him in guam, so he released a plan that was designed to appeal to "the wall street journal" editorial pawj. something that doesn't seem to have moved primary voters, but when you look at their sensibility and what they thought they had to accomplish, that's what they decided they had to do. you can imagine someone else saying, well, gosh, let's do a really big child tax credit and then let's do all these other things that'll essentially get a lot of these urban, socially-liberal, upper middle class voters in states we're not going to win regardless to pay s
CW
Sep 26, 2012 9:00pm CDT
obama and rival mitt romney into battle ground states he surpassed 50% in ohio florida and pennsylvania now in ohio where both candidates were today likely voters found that 51 percent support president obama and 41% mitt romney. president obama focusing on middle-class voters today when my opponent said we should just let. by a wide margin ohio voters believe that obama would do more for the middle class. when you cut through the words you could look through the records and when you can see policies that have not created the jobs american needs and you know it's time to choose a new leader, and get america growing again and get a new coach. ohio has picked a winner in the last 12 presidential elections. during that speech the u.s. delegation stated the iranian president was using his trip to spouse paranoid theories and propulsive slurs against israel. he never mentioned israel by name and his speech was not as provocative as some had expected. the american music world lost one of its legends. andy williams has died. williams died last night at his home in britain misery he was 84 y
CNN
Sep 29, 2012 2:00pm EDT
're in the cnn newsroom where we're live this saturday, september 29th. i'm fredricka whitfield. president obama and mitt romney are about to come face to face in the first presidential debate. just four days away, both obama and romney are practicing this weekend while their campaigns are presenting each candidate as the underdog. paul is in the battleground state of new hampshire. >> hey, fred. as running mate paul ryan makes the rounds on the campaign trail both here in new hampshire and ohio, his boss mitt romney is hunkering down, getting ready for the debate on wednesday, the first presidential showdown between him and president barack obama. romney spending a lot of this weekend in debate preparation. the same thing for the president. he's off the campaign trail today, tomorrow he does go out to nevada, but he's spending a lot of this weekend, we believe, behind closed doors getting ready. meanwhile, both campaigns are playing the expectations game, trying to lower the bar for their candidates. even the candidates themselves are doing it. take a listen to mitt romney recently on the campa
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 12:00pm PDT
recently both nationally and in swing states, you know this poll looks like a lot of others. obama has advantages over romney on the economy and a range of issues. one thing that stood out in the poll is that a lot of voters didn't like how obama's handling the situation in libya. and the romney campaign sort of sees that as well which is why you see them hitting obama so hard on this lately. but there is still a problem here for romney. this is why the debates are so important. romney wants to change the fundamental structure of this race with this debate coming up next wednesday. remember, over 50 million people watched the first presidential debate in 2008. this is going to be a big moment coming up next week, fred, for mitt romney. >> well, let's shift to the u.s. senate and how pivotal any race could be. the democrats have a six-seat majority, but they're defending 23 seats in the election, with republicans defending just 10. so what would give the republicans a pretty good shot at seizing a 51-seat majority, but they also have a big problem and that is that race in missouri. >> y
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 2:00am PDT
're getting now. >> reporter: both obama and romney agree, that health care needs to be more affordable. they just disagree about how to do that. dr. sanjay gupta, cnn reporting. >> all right, thanks, sanjay. meanwhile, police in roseville, michigan, are about to begin drilling for clues in a search for the possible remains of jimmy hoffa. they will test soil samples from underneath a driveway. a teamster told police a body was buried there around the time the teamster's union chief vanished 37 years ago. that's what a tipster says. let's turn to the author of "hoffa wars." he's been following this story since hoffa first disappeared. dan, you've been communicating with this tipster since last march. you've talked to him several times since then. tell us about this person. >> he called me on march 30th, and he told me, and i got dozens of these tips over the past 37 years, he told me that he knew specifically where jimmy hoffa's body was buried. of course, i was very skeptical. i questioned him about a number of things. he -- i was -- i remained skeptical throughout the interview. the c
NBC
Sep 27, 2012 4:00am EDT
morning. ohio is considered a must-win for both candidates. they've been spending so much time that governor kasich joked they should start paying taxes in the state. it illustrates how important this handful of swing states are. president obama and mitt romney are following each other from one battleground state to another. on wednesday ohio was their target. >> you probably are aware that there's an election going on right now in ohio. >> i believe you're going to help me win ohio. >> reporter: today it's a quick flight to virginia. >> we're a compassionate people. >> reporter: on wednesday romney tried to convey a more empathetic candidate. >> we're a charitable people. >> reporter: recent polls shows romney trailing the president on the question of which candidate cares about my needs. but time is running out for governor romney to change voters' minds. early voting is under way in two dozen states. it starts today in iowa and next week in ohio. that has both campaigns stepping up their advertising in see swing states. >> we should measure compassion by how many people can
ABC
Sep 27, 2012 7:00am PDT
with a new ad. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. the difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> reporter: as romney goes on defense, we asked him about the criticism from fellow republicans about his campaign. about those critics within your own party? will there be changes at the top? are you doing anything wrong? >> there are critics and there are cheerleaders. we have people of all different persuasion. and frankly -- >> so, no changes? >> every day, there's improvements and messages that come out. >> reporter: but romney's moment to redefine the conversation less than a week away. pressure for romney to perform on that debate stage against the president. you've been practicing. any nerves? >> i don't worry about the opportunity to be on the air and to face the president. he has his views. i have mine. >> reporter: the governor saying he's ready for the debate. he'll have some debate prep this weekend. some are calling that debate a do-or-die moment. i want to show you that image that we showed earlier. you see the governor there,
MSNBC
Oct 2, 2012 5:00pm PDT
saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." ♪ leaving my homeland ♪ playing a lone hand ♪ my life begins today ♪ ♪ fly by night away from here ♪ ♪ change my life again ♪ ♪ fly by night, goodbye my dear ♪
ABC
Sep 25, 2012 1:40am PDT
." michelle obama discussed her future plans, which were both quick to emphasize they do not include elected office. >> she should run for office, but she said she doesn't want to. >> yeah, no. >> yeah. i'll -- look. i mean michelle would be terrific, but temper mentally, i just don't think -- >> whoo, wait. >> no, it's absolutely true. it takes a lot of patience to be the president of the united states, and i'm not that patient. >> now, after his presidency is finished whether this year or in 2016, mr. obama said that he would look to work with kids in the next phase of his life. i love that. everybody thought he made a diss there, and she said, no, no, he's absolutely right. they know each other. >> they clearly know each other very well. and i actually would agree with the ladies of "the view." i think michelle obama would be fantastic as a member of elected office. i think it's also interesting, they, the president, sort of caught a lot of flak saying, this is a big political week, all heads of state, here in the new york at the u.n. and you are like, you know, hanging out with the lady
CNN
Oct 2, 2012 6:00am PDT
today. the day both candidates are off the cam taken trail and hunkered down for intense coaching and practice. mitt romney is in colorado where the debate is being held, president obama is in nevada right now. yesterday, the president visited with volunteers at a campaign field office in henderson, even picked up the phone and joked with a voter about tomorrow's showdown. >> they're basically keeping me indoors the whole time. they're making me do my homework. >> cnn political director mark preston is in denver. are you inside the hall right now? no, you're still outside. >> reporter: outside. it's beautiful out here, carol. >> it's beautiful. well, you have been inside, i mean, it's a pretty impressive arena. >> it is a pretty impressive arena. and there's going to be so much on the line when we see barack obama and mitt romney face off tomorrow night. you know, carol, when we talk about moments in a campaign and how important they are, it's hard to argue that tomorrow night is not going to be the most important moment in this campaign. mitt romney, barack obama facing off, tens
CSPAN
Sep 27, 2012 9:00am EDT
thousands of new teachers. president obama and governor mitt romney both campaign today in virginia. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> acquit programming note for you. the campaign 2012 coverage continues tonight with a debate between candidates for u.s. senate in nevada. republican dean heller is against democratic congresswoman shelley berkley. that gets underway at 11 p.m. eastern live on c-span. from this morning's washington journal here is a preview of that nv said senate race. >> the on call editor. tonight the first of the series of debates in nevada between two people come incumbent senator dean heller and the republican and his challenger representative shelley berkley, the democrat. what does each person have to achieve tonight in the first debate? >> this race has been very close over the year at this point, and the polls have shown this week the republican poll shows that dean heller was up a few points and then the democratic poll shows shelley berkley was up a few points and most basically show at -- a tie. both need to break out a little bit. fro
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